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    I'd rather have a band with Dave and Wolf, than Sam and Mike.
    Ready, Eddie!

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    Quote Originally Posted by unchainedguitars View Post
    I was going to say the same thing, man, i relation to 1234's comment.

    Even with Dave back, it's not the same band.
    Even with Ed blazing again, it's not the same band.
    The vocals sound different, the guitar tone is different...

    Classic VH was of it's time and place, a moment in time.
    Those guys will never equal that, nor do i expect them too.

    Adding Mike would be a nice gesture, though.
    Kind of a nod to that era, though never equaled.
    I agree 100% with that.

    The Van Halen I really love died in the mid-80's and not entirely bc Sammy.
    Age and change in style just like any band that has a long career. Nobody at fault except Father Time. Well Sammy did take a few good yrs they could've had. Haha

    Just like you said. If/when Mike comes back they are 60 year old dudes that can never equal the greatness they had in their 20's. It'll be nice though and I appreciate that they are still active and making music.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thismusicsux View Post
    I agree 100% with that.

    The Van Halen I really love died in the mid-80's and not entirely bc Sammy.
    Age and change in style just like any band that has a long career. Nobody at fault except Father Time. Well Sammy did take a few good yrs they could've had. Haha

    Just like you said. If/when Mike comes back they are 60 year old dudes that can never equal the greatness they had in their 20's. It'll be nice though and I appreciate that they are still active and making music.
    Yeah, it kills me because i also think we coulda squeezed out one more cool, Roth-era
    record, but instead we got Sammy & 5150 & Bocephus.

    Dave bailed, Ed would have done another album.
    Then the damn car mechanic added insult to injury (Claudio, we hate you!)

    But, yeah, CVH was last heard on Diver and bits & pieces of 1984.
    It goes beyond the music.
    It's a vibe, a tone, a loose but tight, kinda thing.

    That guitar solo in "Dancin' in the streets," was almost sloppy & dazzling, at the same time.
    Thats kinda the feel that evokes CVH.

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    Right. It was the perfect storm and place in time.
    They were DAMN good year after year for awhile there :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by thismusicsux View Post
    Right. It was the perfect storm and time in place.
    They were DAMN good year after year for awhile there :-)
    Yeah, i remember hearing them in this order: WACF, II, I, FW, Diver...

    I was pretty much blown away by each record, hearing them for the first time.
    Even 1984 had Panama & HFT, after being let down by JUMP.
    Hearing "Panama" or "HFT" for the first few times, i thought the band was on fire.
    I was thinking, "Shit, they still got it."

    5150 left me cold, though.

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    It's true, no matter who is in the band, it's only a facsimile. That's kind of why I would prefer if they had just tried to re-invent themselves.


    I don't blame Hags the least bit. He was just being himself...it's just not Van Halen. I actually WANTED to like Van Hags, waited with anticipation, and immediately bought 5150. It just left me flat. I think I liked "Summer nights" for about a week...and then it all faded away.
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    It can't be "Van Halen" without Roth, any more than it can be "Van Halen" without Eddie.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 1234over View Post
    It's true, no matter who is in the band, it's only a facsimile. That's kind of why I would prefer if they had just tried to re-invent themselves.


    I don't blame Hags the least bit. He was just being himself...it's just not Van Halen. I actually WANTED to like Van Hags, waited with anticipation, and immediately bought 5150. It just left me flat. I think I liked "Summer nights" for about a week...and then it all faded away.
    We keep going back to this. We don't want them to try to re-live their classic days yet I don't want Van Halen to not sound like Van Halen. It's not AC/DC syndrome, but what door can they go through?

    I used to like some of the Hagar stuff when I was first getting into them. I remember skipping a lot of tracks though. My uncle had 5150 in his basement. I think I only liked maybe three tracks. Listened to OU812 maybe once or twice before deciding it wasn't worth my time. I dunno. It just seemed too different from the songs I listened to in my dad's VW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EVH_Erupted View Post
    We keep going back to this. We don't want them to try to re-live their classic days yet I don't want Van Halen to not sound like Van Halen. It's not AC/DC syndrome, but what door can they go through?

    I used to like some of the Hagar stuff when I was first getting into them. I remember skipping a lot of tracks though. My uncle had 5150 in his basement. I think I only liked maybe three tracks. Listened to OU812 maybe once or twice before deciding it wasn't worth my time. I dunno. It just seemed too different from the songs I listened to in my dad's VW.
    VH did right by the fans with ADKOT.

    Despite the lingering Hagar-isms of "Tattoo" (more the sound than the singer), the rest of the record
    was pretty decent.

    It wasn't remotely CVH, but it was good!
    It was miles beyond, say, "Balance."

    Same thing happened in 1996.
    The two new trys with Roth bore fruit.
    Was it CVH?
    Nope.

    But it was mature, forward thinking and good!

    They can still be themselves, still be interesting.
    But it's not gonna be VHII.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unchainedguitars View Post
    VH did right by the fans with ADKOT.

    Despite the lingering Hagar-isms of "Tattoo" (more the sound than the singer), the rest of the record
    was pretty decent.

    It wasn't remotely CVH, but it was good!
    It was miles beyond, say, "Balance."

    Same thing happened in 1996.
    The two new trys with Roth bore fruit.
    Was it CVH?
    Nope.

    But it was mature, forward thinking and good!

    They can still be themselves, still be interesting.
    But it's not gonna be VHII.
    I'm not expecting another masterpiece like the classics. I still think ADKoT was a solid album. I just don't know how many other demos they can rehash. I want some fresh material. We saw some of that on there too, and it's a bit hit or miss. We got "As Is" but we also got the half-cocked "Chinatown."

    I know I may have a bias for heavy music, and some may not care for it, but I really liked how they had that big, bombastic sound. They don't need to act like twenty year old rock stars (well, Wolfie can), but I don't really think they should go for a "wise old man" schtick and do a VH mach 5 Jazz Odyssey experimentation.
    Ready, Eddie!

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    I can't wait for the new stuff.No doubt it will be mostly new material.I'm not expecting it to be better than ADKOT but I'll be happy none the less.

 

 

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