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  1. #1
    mooseman44
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    Long live Sammy the Red Rocker

    Firstly, I have registered with this site for one reason. That reason is to defend the great artist known as Sammy Hagar aka Red Rocker as there is no site for Sammy fans to post properly.
    Firstly, Sammy had a great career before joining Van Halen and was liked much more than David Lee Roth. David Lee Roth instigated the original break up of the band and were going to finish completely before Sammy rescued them. David Lee Roth is widely regarded as an arrogant, self satisfied and egotistical person which caused tensions between the band and especially with Eddie himself.
    When I first got into Van Halen, I got the "The Best Of Both Worlds" compilation and the majority of songs that stuck in my head and therefore liked were Sammy songs. Why is this? Sure David made some great songs with Van Halen like Unchained and Jump but if we look at albums like Fair Warning and Women and Children First, most of you will have to swallow your pride and agree that most of the songs on there are completely tuneless and are not memorable at all.
    People say that Sammy made the band turn away from the originality that the original line up had but if we look at an album like Diver Down, which has many cover songs like Dancing in the street, I fail to se any originality in singing a Marvin Gaye song. The album itself was forced into being released by David and Warner Brothers. There will be some there now calling me names and dismissing my argument which is why I am going to post this and never go on this forum again as it has no rational debate and as a result is very biased. The quality of debate is "Hagar is a prick" or "Van Hagar is shit". Why do you call it "Van Hagar"? The name of the band is named after the surname of the lead guitarist and drummer. (Yes he was't the only guitarist as even David played the guitar a tiny bit.) So calling it "Van Hagar" is as good as calling Van Halen with Roth "Van Roth", or with Gary "Van Cherone". So you must admit, it's a fairly lame joke and believe me noone is laughing.
    If we take a look at solo careers before Van Halen we can that Sammy has far more talent. Sammy was in Montrose, a successful American band and then had a successful solo career which toured with Van Halen. After Van Halen and even during his time with the band, he continued to make records. If we look at David's career before Van Halen there is a big difference in the quality. David had NO career before joing Van Halen. He used to lend his PA system to the Van Halen brothers when Eddie used to sing. They therefore only brought on David just so David would stop getting his Jewish, greedy hands on all their money. After he QUIT the band and therefore ended the band which YOU love (a thing you blame on Sammy), he tried to go into a solo career with mixed reactions. He could not play musical instruments very well or indeed sing very well as some of us Sammy fans make out so he had to bring Steve Vai into his "band" but this soon failed and David ended up as a third rate performer. He tried to get back into the band in 1996 and Van Halen probably played a mean joke on him but I am quite comfortable in saying he dserved it for leaving in the first place.
    Sammy is quite gifted on the guitar as can be seen on his Solo recordings and on some tracks with Van Halen. David, however can play the guitar as good as a primary school student and this can be seen on a poor show of skills on Ice Cream Man. Without a doubt, if David had not joined Van Halen he would not be known today and indeed Sammy might have been less known.
    The people on this site make an excuse that Sammy ruined the band but the band's music was already changing and just happened to coincide with Sammy's arrival. David however would not and did not let this change and should therefore be hated by you fans who seem to love Eddie so much. Bands like Aerosmith, Thunder, Stone Roses and Led Zeppelin changed their music over time without changing band members and too, lost many fans because of a change of style. People on here just see Sammy and blame him because they can but it was mostly Eddie who had something to do with the change of style.
    As a conclusion all I will say is that the main show off of the band is Eddie and with any singer or on his own he should be liked by Van Halen fans. I happen to prefer Sammy but I still listen to David's and Gary's stuff. This website is therefore very stupid and childish with imbecilic comments like Prick and stuff. I was told my a close friend that people's opinions worsen when they are around people who agree or "Yes Men". I guess this is the case.
    Reply with more comments like "Hagar is a prick" or even about me to say that I am a "prick". But you are the only people who will get off on them as I will never go on this site again that disrespects someone as talented as Sammy Hagar. I WILL NOT READ REPLIES.
    5150 time!

    Note to self ; I'm with stupid and no one takes me serious so why I even took the time to write this...oh well like I said I'm with stupid !

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    THEE bassist for VH
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    I see your still hanging around, so maybe you ARE waiting to hear replys. First off, look where your at, it says very clearly at the top CLASSIC VAN HALEN does it not? Yes, of course it does silly rabbit! Hagar was not a part of anything classic Van Halen and never will be. His terrible lyrics could never afford him the luxury of being considered. Two, we do in fact, have a Hagar forum for morons like you who happen to like that clown. You should have placed this diatribe there. Three, there is in fact, a Hagar site for idiots like you, it's called called sammyhagar.net. Go there immediately and never return here asshole. Good riddance!

    Mods, feel free to delete this crap, as it certainly doesn't belong in main, let alone this site!
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    Agreed....What an ass pirate this guy is. "When I first got into VH when Best of Both worlds compilation" came out?????" WTF is this guy ON?????
    Fair Warning and WACF had no musical tunes on it??? That alone gives me the pleasure of bashing this moron. You may now go dry hump a running chainsaw you turd.

    I especially like the way he says "VH was on their way out by 1984". After that my gut was aching from pure hysterical laughter. OMG! This sounds like a current member posting under an Alias. Calling Dave a greedy Jew??? Come now, you've made yourself look like an ass with the other statements then a racist with the greedy jew stuff. How juvenile and contrived those words are. Move to Iran and I'm sure you be welcomed with open arms. Bye! Turd!!


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    Cheers everyone !
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    I'm getting nauseous...oh humb humb... PUCKE !!!.....I really have to force myself to only move this to the Hagar forum and not delete this damn thread....but I guess I would disrespect my own preaching to the choir that everybody is allowed to have an oppinion blablahblah .....
    PW I will leave it up to you what to do with this..

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    Dry hump a running chainsaw? Ouch Sikester! Never heard that one before. Maybe this is Stef in disguise???


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    Quote Originally Posted by i1sum2!
    Dry hump a running chainsaw? Ouch Sikester! Never heard that one before. Maybe this is Stef in disguise???
    No he's not Stef he's a new member and not anyone we know yet and I would like to keep it that way as well !

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    Nice one Sum... couldn't resist could you? Please... If I was a Hagar die-hard like this chap I'd be on sammhagar.net or whatever... Mooseman44, if you've come here to debate about Sammy, you've really come to the wrong place. This is practically the "House of Dave" with a few notable exceptions. As long as you accept that and don't upset the status quo you'll be alright. Writing an ode to Sammy on this website is like watching a cow wade slowly through pirhana-infested waters. You know it's gonna get ugly, you just don't know how ugly....

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    Your right, I couldn't resist Stef. You took that in stride I might say. I doubt we'll ever hear from this person again. He cuts and ran.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mooseman44
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    I WILL NOT READ REPLIES.
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    This one was nice, guest.
    Hey, do you speak/read in portuguese, guest?
    I'd like to call you some damn f***ing nice taboo names, but you'd need translation, guest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mooseman44
    Firstly, I have registered with this site for one reason. That reason is to defend the great artist known as Sammy Hagar aka Red Rocker as there is no site for Sammy fans to post properly.
    Firstly, Sammy had a great career before joining Van Halen and was liked much more than David Lee Roth. David Lee Roth instigated the original break up of the band and were going to finish completely before Sammy rescued them. David Lee Roth is widely regarded as an arrogant, self satisfied and egotistical person which caused tensions between the band and especially with Eddie himself.
    When I first got into Van Halen, I got the "The Best Of Both Worlds" compilation and the majority of songs that stuck in my head and therefore liked were Sammy songs. Why is this? Sure David made some great songs with Van Halen like Unchained and Jump but if we look at albums like Fair Warning and Women and Children First, most of you will have to swallow your pride and agree that most of the songs on there are completely tuneless and are not memorable at all.
    People say that Sammy made the band turn away from the originality that the original line up had but if we look at an album like Diver Down, which has many cover songs like Dancing in the street, I fail to se any originality in singing a Marvin Gaye song. The album itself was forced into being released by David and Warner Brothers. There will be some there now calling me names and dismissing my argument which is why I am going to post this and never go on this forum again as it has no rational debate and as a result is very biased. The quality of debate is "Hagar is a prick" or "Van Hagar is shit". Why do you call it "Van Hagar"? The name of the band is named after the surname of the lead guitarist and drummer. (Yes he was't the only guitarist as even David played the guitar a tiny bit.) So calling it "Van Hagar" is as good as calling Van Halen with Roth "Van Roth", or with Gary "Van Cherone". So you must admit, it's a fairly lame joke and believe me noone is laughing.
    If we take a look at solo careers before Van Halen we can that Sammy has far more talent. Sammy was in Montrose, a successful American band and then had a successful solo career which toured with Van Halen. After Van Halen and even during his time with the band, he continued to make records. If we look at David's career before Van Halen there is a big difference in the quality. David had NO career before joing Van Halen. He used to lend his PA system to the Van Halen brothers when Eddie used to sing. They therefore only brought on David just so David would stop getting his Jewish, greedy hands on all their money. After he QUIT the band and therefore ended the band which YOU love (a thing you blame on Sammy), he tried to go into a solo career with mixed reactions. He could not play musical instruments very well or indeed sing very well as some of us Sammy fans make out so he had to bring Steve Vai into his "band" but this soon failed and David ended up as a third rate performer. He tried to get back into the band in 1996 and Van Halen probably played a mean joke on him but I am quite comfortable in saying he dserved it for leaving in the first place.
    Sammy is quite gifted on the guitar as can be seen on his Solo recordings and on some tracks with Van Halen. David, however can play the guitar as good as a primary school student and this can be seen on a poor show of skills on Ice Cream Man. Without a doubt, if David had not joined Van Halen he would not be known today and indeed Sammy might have been less known.
    The people on this site make an excuse that Sammy ruined the band but the band's music was already changing and just happened to coincide with Sammy's arrival. David however would not and did not let this change and should therefore be hated by you fans who seem to love Eddie so much. Bands like Aerosmith, Thunder, Stone Roses and Led Zeppelin changed their music over time without changing band members and too, lost many fans because of a change of style. People on here just see Sammy and blame him because they can but it was mostly Eddie who had something to do with the change of style.
    As a conclusion all I will say is that the main show off of the band is Eddie and with any singer or on his own he should be liked by Van Halen fans. I happen to prefer Sammy but I still listen to David's and Gary's stuff. This website is therefore very stupid and childish with imbecilic comments like Prick and stuff. I was told my a close friend that people's opinions worsen when they are around people who agree or "Yes Men". I guess this is the case.
    Reply with more comments like "Hagar is a prick" or even about me to say that I am a "prick". But you are the only people who will get off on them as I will never go on this site again that disrespects someone as talented as Sammy Hagar. I WILL NOT READ REPLIES.
    5150 time!

    Note to self ; I'm with stupid and no one takes me serious so why I even took the time to write this...oh well like I said I'm with stupid !
    What a shame....you wrote all that and it made about as much impact as a sammy song....go figure.

    You're at the wrong site brother....

 

 

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