I wish I was around while that stuff was being released.
That would have been truly incredible.
In the end, I converted a couple of friends, but the conversations could never be as in depth as they are on this site.
Last night I borrowed my friend my copies of the Largo, Venezuela and Buenos Aires shows.
His mind has been blown by them.
I'm gonna let him read a couple of my books, too.
Maybe some day he will know enough that I can discuss this stuff more in depth with him haha.
Right now it's just about how much of a King Dave was/is, or me telling him the more obscure stuff like Eddie playing bass on FW.
Thread derailed.
Make no mistake , i'm a CVH fanatic ! The music has influenced me in ways that even my own parents haven't .
I've stated countless times that i like all the eras , but the Roth stuff is my favorite . With all the topics about other bands on here , i feel like i should be allowed to mention the post Dave stuff .
At least Eddie and Alex are part of it ! LOL
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"Who Dares , Wins ..."
"Van Halen was never about the singer ..."
As someone who became a VH fan at the tail end of the Roth era, the change from DLR to Sammy (i was 8 in 1984) didnt really seem that drastic at the time, sure Dreams was a departure from Jump but then Good Enough seemed comparable to Panama so i was still "in" on VH, OU812 wasnt big on my radar and FUCK I did enjoy but lost interest in VH after that.
What might've been interesting in seeing is how they wouldve handled the arrival of Grunge while still having DLR as lead singer. Eddie still had/has his reserve of old music (as evident in ADKOT) so they still had "good music" to release and fill out 3 albums (5150, OU812, FUCK). But what grunge did to bury "hair metal" was something to behold. No band that rose up during the 80's glam/hair metal scene survived. Some of the bigger bands either disappeared (Warrant, Poison) or members left (Vince Neil Motley Crue). So the style of music VH was playing at the time seemed appropriate to survive, Poundcake, Runaround, Right Now all were on constant rotation on MTV along with Nirvana, Soundgarden, Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains. So i wonder had DLR stayed if Ed would have felt some pressure to change musically anyway in order to survive while DLR would've welcomed the challenge and continue writing songs about hard drinking, fast living and womanizing.
It's fair to say fans that followed VH from the start matured along with the band so the style of music they played seemed right, yet it seems the younger generation would have embraced the style of music played during the Roth era but the guys singing about it (Warrant, Poison, Motley) sucked at delivering the message so maybe that's why they went away and VH would have still been on top after the dust had settled.
It's important to note that heavy metal was also starting to get more traction in the mainstream so VH could have relied on harder, edgier stuff if need be.
Last edited by ErickC; June 6th, 2013 at 06:21 PM.
Thanks , man !
The Cherone stuff WAS a lot different . I'll certainly admit that . There was still a fair amount of great guitar moments on there though , IMO .
I'm sure that there are fans who might prefer one (or both) of the post Roth eras . There's also a few who like them all , and have respect for each in their own way . I'd consider myself in that category .
"There's a little bit of Van Halen in everyone ..."![]()
"Who Dares , Wins ..."
"Van Halen was never about the singer ..."
Some of Ed's playing was pretty wild on that album . Too bad the guys didn't tour first , before the release . I think "III" might have gotten a better reception .
I won't say that i love the whole record , but there's enough cool stuff on there to make me happy .
"There's a little bit of Van Halen in everyone ..."![]()
"Who Dares , Wins ..."
"Van Halen was never about the singer ..."