What's in Your cd Player

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Originally Posted by vhfanjack

I used to hate rap, but I didn't know how extensive the genre is.
Hell, I used to just stay in my box of listening to Zeppelin, Sabbath and Van Halen.
It wasn't fun only rarely being able to find something I like.
Once I stopped discriminating against everything and started listening to it, it opened a whole new world to me.
It's a lot more fulfilling being able to listen to all different sorts of genres, than just hammering one out all the time.

All of these threads tend to be a parallel of each other...
"You damn Republicans, look at what's going on!"
"Will you religious people be rational and look at that facts?!"
"Listen to more than one genre of music!".
It's weird.
Why is there so much tension on so many threads all of a sudden?
Why are they all so similar?
This is a new era in the history of ClassicVanHalen.com.

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You are overanalyzing everything Jack. My music collection is very eclectic, from rock to classical to jazz to country to blues etc. and conservatives are the ones who are about individual freedom. Dan can say what he wants, but I want the government to stay out of our lives as much as possible, the Democrats are who seem to want the government to be involved in every facet of our lives. Whatever happened to personal responsibility and the American Dream? Oh yeah...progressives fucked up the education system in this country, among other things...

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Originally Posted by Jungle Drummer

You are overanalyzing everything Jack. My music collection is very eclectic, from rock to classical to jazz to country to blues etc. and conservatives are the ones who are about individual freedom. Dan can say what he wants, but I want the government to stay out of our lives as much as possible, the Democrats are who seem to want the government to be involved in every facet of our lives. Whatever happened to personal responsibility and the American Dream? Oh yeah...progressives fucked up the education system in this country, among other things...

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I was just trying to think of a line to be there for the political thread tension; I wasn't stating something serious. I don't know what's going on in that thread anymore.

Several things prevent me from liking rap.

Number one: I like singing.
I love a great voice, and there is no singing in rap.

Two: I like real instruments.
The Roots use real instruments, and there may be some underground rap acts that play instruments as well - I wouldn't know...
But as far as I see, at least the more obvious rap acts don't have real musicians playing real instruments.

So that's two things I can't get around.

Add the image, posturing etc. and you've lost me.

I can listen to anything but rap really.

I still can't wrap my head around "progressive" being a negative or a liability.

Must be a regional thing.

They are doing a "replacement singers weekend" on WZLX (Brian Johnson, Sammy Hagar, Phil Collins, etc.),
so i'm hearing a ton of Van Hagar, sadly.

"Runaround" was played, and immediately, i perked up, "Oh, i like this song!"
But then i realized i like it, but for me, it's not like i'm hearing a VH song.
It's like i'm hearing XYZ or an old LA GUNS thing, from way back in the early 90's.
It sounds so dated, but it's like a tune you liked back then & it brings you back.

But when i hear the six pack, it still feels so current & classic.
It's like hearing a Zep tune, where you don't think, "Oh Shit, that really sounds like
1973!"
It just sounds like it's of no particular time, just classic.

They also just played, ABACAB by Genesis.

How damn awesome is that song?!
Soooooo good, even now.

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Originally Posted by rawkinrobbievh1

i don't (nor do they) consider Van Halen to be hair metal or even metal . no argument there . actually there's no argument anywhere ...
there are people who think VH are an 80's band , complete with all the stereotypes and foolishness that went along with that era .

they consider it to be the same genre . actually it kind of is , if you think about it ?
but VH are in a completely different league altogether ...

think of baseball ; there's the majors and the minors as well as the high school wannabees .
same game , different status .

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Sorry for the tag team, but you can say that about Van Halen but not rapper like LL Cool J and Run-DMC? Kinda contradicting. Those guys were leagues beyond of what is the modern cRAP that comes from Lil Wayne and so on.

I can understand the "it's not music", but look where/ when it came from. The late 70s at discotheques. Then it emerged on the streets with boomboxes and tapes. The 80s and early 90s were full of creative ideas from these rappers. It's the flow and delivery, along with the lyrical content.

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Originally Posted by Nick AVH fan

Sorry for the tag team, but you can say that about Van Halen but not rapper like LL Cool J and Run-DMC? Kinda contradicting. Those guys were leagues beyond of what is the modern cRAP that comes from Lil Wayne and so on.

I can understand the "it's not music", but look where/ when it came from. The late 70s at discotheques. Then it emerged on the streets with boomboxes and tapes. The 80s and early 90s were full of creative ideas from these rappers. It's the flow and delivery, along with the lyrical content.

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They didn't have the money to get instruments and start bands.
They had to use their record players as instruments, creating a new sound and genre.

Now it's just the product of laziness and dumbing down the population haha.

This is not the same as....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVO5WhIm4uI

This.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiOcVWQY2bc

Exactly.


Now off to go listen to Grieg...

I am not a fan of rap music.

I don't really consider it "music" in the same sense that a rock or metal act can be. That doesn't mean rap is talentless, even though I don't like it, I've seen videos on YouTube where these inner-city guys have "rap battles" where they are making up rhymes off the top of their heads, and it is actually quite impressive.

What I don't like, are talentless drivel, like Lil Wayne, 2Chainz, nonsense like that. That is most certainly NOT music, it doesn't even rhyme!!

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Originally Posted by wimpyliberalbuster32

I am not a fan of rap music.

I don't really consider it "music" in the same sense that a rock or metal act can be. That doesn't mean rap is talentless, even though I don't like it, I've seen videos on YouTube where these inner-city guys have "rap battles" where they are making up rhymes off the top of their heads, and it is actually quite impressive.

What I don't like, are talentless drivel, like Lil Wayne, 2Chainz, nonsense like that. That is most certainly NOT music, it doesn't even rhyme!!

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But 2Chainz is da best rapper in da game!

As I've been told...

It's become a cliche at this point:

Brawl breaks out at the BET Awards, shots are fired.
The dumb Rappers are usually the guys involved in this nonsense.

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Originally Posted by vhfanjack

I'll definitely check those pieces out. My Mom's a music teacher, so she was happy to find out that I'm learning her thing while overseas.
She's stoked that I like a Bach piece, because he's her favorite composer.
I can't wait until we get into the classical era so that I can learn more about Mozart and Beethoven.

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Oh yeah Jack,great music listening comin' your way.Have fun man!

I made a quick playlist for my commute to work/school:

1) AC/DC - Gimme a Bullet
2) Sex Pistols - Holidays in the Sun
3) Van Halen - Romeo Delight
4) Rolling Stones - Jumpin' Jack Flash
5) Motley Crue - Stick to Your Guns
6) Van Halen - Hear About It Later
7) Motorhead - Line in the Sand
8) The Who - Baba O'Riley
9) Ozzy - Over the Mountain
10) Van Halen - In a Simple Rhyme
11) The Who - The Song is Over
12) The Go-Go's - Head over Heels
13) Dire Straits - Sultans of Swing
14) Van Halen - Blood and Fire

I'm really enjoying this mix!! I think it's the perfect representation of my musical taste, it has everything I like.

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Originally Posted by wimpyliberalbuster32

I made a quick playlist for my commute to work/school:

1) AC/DC - Gimme a Bullet
2) Sex Pistols - Holidays in the Sun
3) Van Halen - Romeo Delight
4) Rolling Stones - Jumpin' Jack Flash
5) Motley Crue - Stick to Your Guns
6) Van Halen - Hear About It Later
7) Motorhead - Line in the Sand
8) The Who - Baba O'Riley
9) Ozzy - Over the Mountain
10) Van Halen - In a Simple Rhyme
11) The Who - The Song is Over
12) The Go-Go's - Head over Heels
13) Dire Straits - Sultans of Swing
14) Van Halen - Blood and Fire

I'm really enjoying this mix!! I think it's the perfect representation of my musical taste, it has everything I like.

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Here's my musical response (and my latest commute playlist):

1. AC/DC "What's next to the moon"
2. Sex Pistols "New York"
3.Van Halen "Fools"
4. Eurythmics "Here comes the rain again" (Talk about tone, Annie has a "brown" throat)
5. 24-7 Spyz "New super hero worship"
6. Cat Power "Cherokee" (new record is great, btw)
7. The Cars "Dangerous Type"
8. Motorhead "Jailbait"
9. Motorhead "Back at the funny farm"
10. Isis "Syndic calls"
11. KISS "Shock me"
12. Beth Orton (her new CD, all of it, GREAT!)

I also have a RODS show from '82 (opening for Maiden).
God, did they kick ass (the drummer, Carl Cannedy (??) is SICK!)

Have to admit this, i DL'd a CINDERELLA show from '86, New Jersey.
Right before 'Night Songs' came out, and guess what, it smokes!
GREAT/HUGE guitar tones, and Kiefer sings half "screech" and half "natural."
I used to think their solo's sucked, but i was wrong, the solo's are great.
They are bluesy, kinda melodic too, always fit the tune.
But again, GREAT guitar tones happening.

It's a club show, too.

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Originally Posted by unchainedguitars

Here's my musical response (and my latest commute playlist):

1. AC/DC "What's next to the moon"
2. Sex Pistols "New York"
3.Van Halen "Fools"
4. Eurythmics "Here comes the rain again" (Talk about tone, Annie has a "brown" throat)
5. 24-7 Spyz "New super hero worship"
6. Cat Power "Cherokee" (new record is great, btw)
7. The Cars "Dangerous Type"
8. Motorhead "Jailbait"
9. Motorhead "Back at the funny farm"
10. Isis "Syndic calls"
11. KISS "Shock me"
12. Beth Orton (her new CD, all of it, GREAT!)

I also have a RODS show from '82 (opening for Maiden).
God, did they kick ass (the drummer, Carl Cannedy (??) is SICK!)

Have to admit this, i DL'd a CINDERELLA show from '86, New Jersey.
Right before 'Night Songs' came out, and guess what, it smokes!
GREAT/HUGE guitar tones, and Kiefer sings half "screech" and half "natural."
I used to think their solo's sucked, but i was wrong, the solo's are great.
They are bluesy, kinda melodic too, always fit the tune.
But again, GREAT guitar tones happening.

It's a club show, too.

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I didn't know you were into Isis.
All I have is the Wavering Radiant, but that album takes me places.
Very calming, which is surprising, considering that most people would find it too heavy.

I order Burn the Priest off of Amazon last night.
Have needed some more Lamb of God for a while now.
Should give me something to listen to on the way to Dallas on saturday.

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Originally Posted by vhfanjack

I didn't know you were into Isis.
All I have is the Wavering Radiant, but that album takes me places.
Very calming, which is surprising, considering that most people would find it too heavy.

I order Burn the Priest off of Amazon last night.
Have needed some more Lamb of God for a while now.
Should give me something to listen to on the way to Dallas on saturday.

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Been a huge Isis fan for a long time, now.
I posted some in studio vids from them, years ago.

"Panopticon" is their "Master of Puppets," a masterpiece.
I believe that was 2005.
"Oceanic," the album before, was great, also.

For some reason, the albums after, just seemed redundant.

The part that begins at 4:23, right to the end of the song, is probably the coolest, most haunting
thing i've ever heard.
If you listen with headphones, you can hear this very slow flange/phase sweep happening, on one
of the guitars.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jn1bsz8own0

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Originally Posted by unchainedguitars

Here's my musical response (and my latest commute playlist):

6. Cat Power "Cherokee" (new record is great, btw)

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Chan Marshall is originally from around here. She worked at a pizza place called Fellini's Pasta (not that I ever saw or met her). I kept reading about how wild and kooky she was, so I saw Catfight was playing and went to the show. Three girls on stage, but the singer seemed really normal to me, even though they were playing punk rock sort of stuff. I was telling the door guy, "I heard this girl is supposed to be nuts, but she seems okay to me." He said, "Oh, you're thinking of Cat POWER. This is CatFIGHT." Whoops! He said he had known Chan when she worked around the corner at Fellini's and yeah, she was out of it.

Finally I saw Cat Power on TV, but I think maybe Catfight was better.

I later read that the singer of Catfight is married to Brann Dailor of Mastodon.

Chan has been known to have panic attacks, right on stage.
One night she could be great, the next night a train wreck.
She started as this sort of sullen/sparse indie rock heroine, then made this amazing weird
stax/soul type record.
I love her voice, it can be fragile & powerful.

I dunno, i just like those sort of "kooky/outsider" types, that end up finding a following.

The Beth Orton record is really good, too.
It's like British folk with electronic elements.

We got a good playlist this month for B&N, including these two.

I also really appreciate the fact that she covered this great, old ACCEPT tune...

Funny how you guys were talking about old school rap a few pages back, today my TA played a Public Enemy song alongside something called Gucci Gucci in order to show the contrast between generations of contemporary black entertainment...

Anyways, this week I've got Van Halen's debut and Rush 2112 in the car... 'cept I think my CD player took a shit on me and now it doesn't play anymore. I haven't even heard the whole album yet!

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Originally Posted by unchainedguitars

Been a huge Isis fan for a long time, now.
I posted some in studio vids from them, years ago.

"Panopticon" is their "Master of Puppets," a masterpiece.
I believe that was 2005.
"Oceanic," the album before, was great, also.

For some reason, the albums after, just seemed redundant.

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I'll have to check out their other stuff.
The link you posted has some great stuff on it.

Back to Basics - Got Led Zep's Houses of the Holy and III back to the cd player.

And inside my cell phone/mp3. Just some fine stuff. :rasta:

Went to Best But for the first time today.

I was amazed to see Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, Are You Experienced, Master of Puppets and Rush shirts on sale. It's weird, it seems like over here a lot loss people listen to those types of bands, but the merch and stuff is a lot more prominent.

The 5 dollar cd section blew my mind. I had to restrain myself and only got 4 albums. Parliament's Chocolate City, Metallica's Beyond Magnetic, Primus's Miscellaneous Debris and G'n'R's Lies.

Hey, Jack, is that a picture of Shreveport in your signature?

* Nevermind, I right clicked and that's Melbourne. I suspected Shreveport didn't look that cool.

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Originally Posted by Ice Cream Man

Hey, Jack, is that a picture of Shreveport in your signature?

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Haha no, it's Melbourne. I wish it was Shreveport.

Yeah, I pictured Shreveport as some oil fields and shrimp boats. The city in that picture looked badass!

In my CD player is Mark Kozelek's solo album, "Rock n' Roll Singer," named for the AC/DC song. He's covered several Kiss and AC/DC songs, and does really serious acoustic interpretations that show how good the lyrics really are.

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Originally Posted by Ice Cream Man

Yeah, I pictured Shreveport as some oil fields and shrimp boats. The city in that picture looked badass!

In my CD player is Mark Kozelek's solo album, "Rock n' Roll Singer," named for the AC/DC song. He's covered several Kiss and AC/DC songs, and does really serious acoustic interpretations that show how good the lyrics really are.

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Thank you.

Never really appreciated it until just before I left.

SO FRUSTRATING!

Been revisiting the best, finest sounding (could be released as a live album, as is, it's so well mixed & clear) bootleg
from 1978:

Van Halen at Hammersmith.

Incredibly tight show, with every member supremely on top of their game. except....

The final song, "Bottom's up!" cuts out, midway through.
It is the coolest, meanest version of "Bottom's" i've ever heard, but it gives you musical blue balls!
It never completes.

Why did they NOT finish the final song?
It's a soundboard, so it's not like some guy was taping it & ran out of tape.

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Originally Posted by unchainedguitars

SO FRUSTRATING!

Been revisiting the best, finest sounding (could be released as a live album, as is, it's so well mixed & clear) bootleg
from 1978:

Van Halen at Hammersmith.

Incredibly tight show, with every member supremely on top of their game. except....

The final song, "Bottom's up!" cuts out, midway through.
It is the coolest, meanest version of "Bottom's" i've ever heard, but it gives you musical blue balls!
It never completes.

Why did they NOT finish the final song?
It's a soundboard, so it's not like some guy was taping it & ran out of tape.

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Hmmm, I'm pretty sure I've heard a complete version of it before...

Okay, it's not Hammersmith, but there's a Japan/Osaka gig that they jammed out to Bottom's Up more.

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Originally Posted by Nick AVH fan

Okay, it's not Hammersmith, but there's a Japan/Osaka gig that they jammed out to Bottom's Up more.

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I have that, but the sound & performance are nowhere near as good as Hammersmith.

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Originally Posted by unchainedguitars

I have that, but the sound & performance are nowhere near as good as Hammersmith.

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Agreed. I can't find my Hammersmith concert anywhere...

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Originally Posted by unchainedguitars

I have that, but the sound & performance are nowhere near as good as Hammersmith.

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VH 1978 at the Hammersmith is a fantastic boot !
God , what i wouldn't give for a dvd version of THAT ...

the mix is clear and vibrant , and the the band are blazing through that set .
as a guitar player , i kneel in awe of EVH on that one . nice to hear those licks and riffs with a near pristine recording .

Plus, he somehow nails the sound at the intro to, Ain't talkin' bout love.
It sounds pretty close to the record.

I'm telling you, this is the only LIVE album you really need, in the sense that it sounds
extremely slick for a '78 boot.
They could release it, as is.

There's got to be some pro shot footage out there of a 78 show. God dammit, why can't they release a huge boxset?

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Originally Posted by vhfanjack

There's got to be some pro shot footage out there of a 78 show. God dammit, why can't they release a huge boxset?

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That would be a real 'Celebration Day', instead of Led Zeppelin in 2007, tuned to the depths of hell to accomidate Plant's voice.

Which reminds me of a fun, creative thread we could do...

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Originally Posted by unchainedguitars

Plus, he somehow nails the sound at the intro to, Ain't talkin' bout love.
It sounds pretty close to the record.

I'm telling you, this is the only LIVE album you really need, in the sense that it sounds
extremely slick for a '78 boot.
They could release it, as is.

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it would be a perfect early documentation of VH live .

i'd still like some later stuff from their other stellar albums up to and including 1984 .
Eddie played some sick unaccompanied guitar solos on that tour .

Wolf , are you listening ...? lol