Are VH recording a new cd for 2014 ?

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Originally Posted by DLR 1973

It's true that I haven't seen a live show on either of the tours since they reunited with Dave. If they visit Europe then I will have my chance.

But I am entitled to my opinion. Yes it is based on what I have listened to on recordings including youtube videos.

To be honest, I do like Wolfgang. I think he's a extremely talented musician. But having had Dave out of the band for so many years, when they finally did get him back in, I was so frustrated when they kicked Mike out.

They are so close to capturing the Classic Van Halen sound, but haven't got all of the ingredients.

I don't want them to sound the same that they did on Van Halen I, or Van Halen II, etc, I want a modern Van Halen sound, but with all the key components.

Wolfgang, as nice as he is, hasn't brought anything really special to the mix yet. Therefore, I naturally would rather have Mike on Bass and backing vocals.

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All Wolf has brought to the mix is better bass lines than any other previous VH album, like it or not. Of course, Ed had Mike "boxed in" to playing root notes all those years *rolls eyes*. But listen to the "free" Michael Anthony on the Chickenfoot albums and....he still sounds exactly as you would expect MA to sound.

Really, we probably can also partially thank Wolf for having Dave in the band, since he naturally has always gravitated more to the classic era.

Personally, I know I'm in the minority of people who actually like and enjoy Wolf in the band, but as UG said, at least I'm being realistic. If you want to waste your time ripping on the band and pining away for Sam's buddy, instead of enjoying the twilight years of the band playing with Dave, then so be it.

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Originally Posted by Nick AVH fan

I honestly think it's possible for both. Mach IV doesn't mean they have to stray away from the classic sound, right? Wolf does have great vocals and I was quite impressed on the 2012 shows, and the recent ones. He has some strong pipes.

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Agree completely. I also understand what 1234 is wanting, but CVH was always able to do a variety of styles, yet still retain the "Halen" sound. I think they could still do that today. Even if they do just play it safe, it will still be Dave making music with the Halens, and that's a combination that I believe will always ignite musical sparks that I will enjoy. ADKOT is a great album, and I dont think it will ever get old for me.

What if the music is as different from CVH as Van Hagar is?

I don't want it to sound like Van Hagar, but it could be maintained that there should be that much difference.

I don't think it will sound like Van Hagar, but you have a valid concern if Mach IV is completely different than CVH. However, it seems Eddie can write riffs that aren't on autopilot like he was with Hagar. I'm wondering what his music would sound with a fresh inspiration that doesn't come from demo days. I'm certain it will be guitar driven.

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Originally Posted by Nick AVH fan

I don't think it will sound like Van Hagar, but you have a valid concern if Mach IV is completely different than CVH. However, it seems Eddie can write riffs that aren't on autopilot like he was with Hagar. I'm wondering what his music would sound with a fresh inspiration that doesn't come from demo days. I'm certain it will be guitar driven.

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I thought I was making it clear that I didn't think it would sound like Van Hagar, just that that much of a difference in the sound is possible. It's hard to quantify, so I used that as an example.
I want it to sound that much different. I think it SHOULD, because they have changed as people, and Wolf is in the band.

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Originally Posted by 1234over

I thought I was making it clear that I didn't think it would sound like Van Hagar, just that that much of a difference in the sound is possible. It's hard to quantify, so I used that as an example.
I want it to sound that much different. I think it SHOULD, because they have changed as people, and Wolf is in the band.

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You did. That's why I said "Different than CVH". Chill, man.

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Originally Posted by Nick AVH fan

You did. That's why I said "Different than CVH". Chill, man.

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Sorry, but it's been hard to get across what I mean, and sometimes it seems like the opposite of what I'm saying is what people infer.

Maybe VH should change a bit with Wolf involved. Lyrically, I think DLR is doing a great job. I'm really enjoying his lyrics and he's brought a lot of his worldly experience to the table. I think he has matured from the party rock aspect, that's why I think "Let's Get Rockin'" was changed to "Outta Space".

What do you think musically would change?

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Originally Posted by Nick AVH fan

Maybe VH should change a bit with Wolf involved. Lyrically, I think DLR is doing a great job. I'm really enjoying his lyrics and he's brought a lot of his worldly experience to the table. I think he has matured from the party rock aspect, that's why I think "Let's Get Rockin'" was changed to "Outta Space".

What do you think musically would change?

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Yeah, Roth has changed it up.

I'm not sure what would change, but I know I don't want them to try to be what they were before, because it can only be an approximation. EVH obviously has other facets to his music, and I hope they can find one that fits with Roth.

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Originally Posted by 1234over

Yeah, Roth has changed it up.

I'm not sure what would change, but I know I don't want them to try to be what they were before, because it can only be an approximation. EVH obviously has other facets to his music, and I hope they can find one that fits with Roth.

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I liked what ADKOT sounded like especially "You and Your Blues" and "The Trouble with Never" (Though people seem to dislike that song). If Eddie does slick and swagger riffs, I think Roth's voice would greatly match with that.